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Omar Bessa, IQ tested in the 99.9993923584% 16 SD percentile (170)
First: the claim that “kids and dead people are always the example for 200+” could be disputed.
You could say “very often”, but without concrete data it’s hyperbolic. Sorry to nitpick like this, yet the question begs it if it’s going to be properly frxd and answered.
There’s no way to gather all the data required, so this statement is falsifiable in principle but not in practice.
What you could otherwise say is: “Why are small kids with very high IQs shown in media?” and that kind of answers itself: because it’s easy news. It even happened to myself. Now that I’m an adult there’s no one covering my story.
Adults with very high IQs are not news. Kids are.

佰威彩票_[开户赠金]首先,“ 智商200+的案例都出现在孩子(和死人)之中”的说法可能会引起争议。
你可以说“非常频繁” ,但是没有具体的数据支撑,那这就是夸张,很抱歉这么挑剔,但问题在于它是否会被恰当地界定和回答。
由于没有办法采集所需的全部数据,因此这种说法在原则上是可以证伪的,但在实践中是不可证伪的。
你也可以说: “为什么高智商的小孩子会出现在媒体上? ” 答案就在于此,因为这是新闻。
佰威彩票_[开户赠金]这甚至发生在我自己身上,现在我是个成年人了,没有人来报道我的故事了。
高智商的成年人不是新闻,孩子才是。

Adults with very high IQs who are dead and—very important and—have done contributions to Science or else, can also be turned into a news piece with a guesstimation of their IQs.
Adults with very high IQs who were famous are news. Commoners are not.
Said estimation is always going to be unfalsifiable and very pseudo-scientific. Unless we can find great genetic markers for IQs and then unearth a couple of them and sequence their DNA, we won’t be able to prove any claims like those.

高智商的成年人已经去世了,他们对科学或其他领域做出了重要贡献,他们的智商也可以通过猜测变成新闻。
高智商的成年人出名是新闻,而普通人不是。
佰威彩票_[开户赠金]所谓的估计永远是不可证伪的,是非常伪科学的。
除非我们能找到一些杰出人物的智商遗传标记,然后挖掘出其中的一些并测序它们的 DNA,否则我们将无法证明任何类似的断言。

Second: 200+ IQs are ratio IQs. Which notoriously lead to problems.
What good is a 250 [1]IQ? Or a 228 [2]one? Or a 170 [3]one? 160[4]? what about 125[5]?
Who had demonstrated incredible almost super-human abilities in the realms of intellectual efficacy? The 228 person or the 170/190?
For one, there’s no evidence that John von Neumann had taken an IQ test. Same goes to Einstein, and he was qualititatively different/capable than the von Neumann alien. If that alien was 170, I’ll gladly drop my IQ by a hundred points.
Marilyn vos Savant did get tested and she’s no Einstein, Neumann nor Feynman.

佰威彩票_[开户赠金]其次:200+智商的说法,是比例智商,众所周知这会导致问题。
250的智商体现在何处? 228呢? 170? 160? 125 又怎么样?
谁在智力效能领域展示了难以置信的近乎超人的能力? 是智商228的人,还是智商170 / 190的人?
首先,没有证据表明约翰 · 冯 · 诺伊曼做过智商测试,爱因斯坦也是一样,他被认定为与“外星人”冯 · 诺依曼外星人一样有能力,如果冯 · 诺伊曼这个“外星人”的智商是170,我很乐意把我的智商降低100点。
玛丽莲 · 沃斯 · 莎凡特做过测试,她既不是爱因斯坦,也没有成为也不是冯 · 诺伊曼,费曼。



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obxtions aside, what happens to those people after they grow up?
Well, some of them go lead wonderful careers where they can utilize their talents to some extent. Others don’t.
Those who don’t are divided between the ones that consciously do so, and the ones that are limited by an environmental factor or else that escapes beyond their control—e.g. illness, poverty, etc.
Wherever their paths lead them are a combination of how well adjusted they are and how good their socio-economic background is.

抛开反对意见不谈,这些人长大后会发生什么呢?
嗯,他们中的一些人可以在某种程度上发挥他们的才能,开创美好的事业,其他人则不然。
那些没有这样做的人被分为两类,一类是有意识地这样做的人,另一类是受到环境因素限制的人,或者是那些无法摆脱环境制约的人,疾病、贫穷等。
佰威彩票_[开户赠金]无论他们的人生道路走向何方,他们的适应能力和社会经济背景都是一个综合因素。

A stupid badly adjusted high IQ person is one heartbreak away of becoming a deranged terrorist[9]. A better adjusted one could have a family and be a productive [10]member of society. A less adjusted one might try to build a weird [11]theory of everything.
It depends.

一个愚蠢的、适应能力差却有着高智商的人心碎一次就会变成一个精神错乱的恐怖分子。
一个适应能力更强的人可以拥有一个家庭,成为创造社会生产力的一员。
一个不太适应环境的人可能会试图建立一个奇怪的万物理论。 [11]
情况各不相同。

Footnotes
[1] William James Sidis - Wikipedia
[2] Marilyn vos Savant - Wikipedia
[3] John von Neumann - Wikipedia
[4] Albert Einstein - Wikipedia
[5] Richard Feynman - Wikipedia
[6] How Many People Have Ever Lived on Earth?
[7] Definition of irony | Dictionary.com
[8] Notice Me Senpai - Yandere simulator animated
[9] Ted Kaczynski - Wikipedia
[10] Norbert Wiener - Wikipedia
[11] Christopher Langan - Wikipedia

脚注:
[1]威廉·詹姆斯·席德斯-维基百科
[2]玛丽莲·沃斯·莎凡特-维基百科
[3]约翰·冯·诺伊曼-维基百科
[4]阿尔伯特 · 爱因斯坦-维基百科
[5]理查德 · 费曼-维基百科
[6]地球上曾经生活过多少人?
[7]讽刺的定义 | Dictionary.com
[8]Notice Me Senpai -Yandere 模拟动画
[9] 泰德·卡辛斯基- 维基百科
[10]诺伯特 · 维纳-维基百科
[11]克里斯托弗·兰根-维基百科